Darkfall Unholy Wars: Perma Banned For Wanting Refund

Today I was banned for requesting PayPal to seek a refund from AV on my behalf due to their product not being as advertised, as well as not having any discernable release date.  I just want ya'll to know that they will ban you if you try to get your money back in any way possible, and more than likely you will not get anything back in the end.  This is fraud in my book, and I hope that MMORPG.com and other sites cover this...I don't know where to send this information so that it gets on the front page, but it needs to be.

they can ban for whatever reason. Messing with their income is a sure way to get banned.

What did you expect them to do when you tried to reach into their pockets thru paypal and get your money back ? Be happy about it ?

you're trying to take back your money and they're trying to take back their product. Where's the fraud ?

This is normal for them.  Just make a new account  if and when you want to play the DFUW gold game.  I don't think they've ever been accused of being a good company that makes good products, so lesson learned I guess.

Yeah honestly expectations is not one of AV's strong point. Highly undependable, they created one "finished" (i guess) product that gave players quite a bit of freedom in the "conquest" area with very customizable combat. Basically a game for hardcore MMO Players to use so that they can call themselves hardcore. the only reason people signed up early for this game, is cuz they realize what a fucking grind DF 1 was and think that if they play from the beginning the game will actually be fun, and also becasue they were so butt-hurt that the game didnt release "on time" . Sadly the company planned on releasing a game that couldnt even really be considered a game so they just were like " shit were out of money......tell them we need pre orders and we will give them a beta"......planning is another one of AV's weak points. Im starting to wonder if tasos even works for AV or if he looks just through the windows and makes his own estimates about the Darkfall Unholy Wars gold game. And av was just like "ehh whatever, its not like we have to pay him" and just made him the company herald. regardless, everyone knows they are going to wipe the servers before the game goes offish soo basically, dont both getting it now...they have plenty of fucking testers, we got to see all 10k of them when we logged into the game the first time....what a nightmare. Just wait till it releases, spend ur money then.

Two things, first, did you ask AV directly for a refund, if not, why not?  If you did and they refused, then fine, request a refund from PayPal.  Second, isn't this basically the same as a chargeback if you had used a creditcard?  If so, then every mmo company I am aware of would ban the account.  I mean, why wouldn't they ban the account if you want your money back for the account?  Is this about forum posting under your known name or something?  I don't even understand what the problem is really.  Even if they agreed to give you your money back, you are no longer their customer and shouldn't have access to what a customer has access to.

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